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Post by rammiepie January 1, 2015 (3871 of 4131)
Euell Neverno said:

Is this an offer to supply gratis a high quality bottle of bubbly? I believe you will like the BIS recording of Brazilian Impressions, etc. The quality of the playing and recording are at a very high level.

BTW, is a penchant for incorrigibility similar to an equipment addiction that afflicts some of us?

Thanks for the heads~up on Brazilian Impressions.

Buy your own bubbly and my equipment addiction is my own incorrigible way of spending the money on myself and NOT leaving it to undeserving relatives!

Another recommendation for the Neverno library is Arnesen's Magnificat from 2L (BD~A/SACD) which is playing in the background heralding in the new year. Simply Magnificent!

Scandanavian Impressions....in glorious discreet SURROUND*!

{*YOUR New Years resolution, I trust}?

Post by Euell Neverno January 2, 2015 (3872 of 4131)
rammiepie said:

Thanks for the heads~up on Brazilian Impressions.

Buy your own bubbly and my equipment addiction is my own incorrigible way of spending the money on myself and NOT leaving it to undeserving relatives!

Another recommendation for the Neverno library is Arnesen's Magnificat from 2L (BD~A/SACD) which is playing in the background heralding in the new year. Simply Magnificent!

Scandanavian Impressions....in glorious discreet SURROUND*!

{*YOUR New Years resolution, I trust}?

Nah, but thanks for the return recommendation. I've been thinking of that one.

PS. Hope your sister from LA isn't keeping track of your comments on undeserving relatives. Hell hath no fury like a beneficiary scorned.

Post by rammiepie January 2, 2015 (3873 of 4131)
Euell Neverno said:

Nah, but thanks for the return recommendation. I've been thinking of that one.

PS. Hope your sister from Encinitas isn't keeping track of your comments on undeserving relatives. Hell hath no fury like a beneficiary scorned.

I'll leave her my BIS SACD collection!


If she asks, I'll tell her it's a Swedish hybrid running on 5.0 cylinders!

Post by thomian January 4, 2015 (3874 of 4131)
bissie said:

Now - very rarely so - I am in disagreement with you. There are no - and can be no - fixed pauses between pieces or movements. It is a musical judgement...

Indeed, this is a sometimes heated topic of discussion internally at BIS, where several people think and feel differently. Whatever the outcome, we really do think this is a very big part of the general dramaturgy on the SACD and we put down not a little time to get it right (yes, don't tell me, there isn't anything right or wrong, but...), as we do with the running order of the pieces in order to create a positive dramaturgy of the record as a whole...

Nice to hear from BIS... My latest CD from Sony Classical (Windsbacher Knabenchor: Nun sei willkommen, Herre Christ) has horrible pause editing: The organ and the choir passages have been crossfaded, so that you get shocked by organ & trumpet attacks in the last reverbs of the choir pianissimo... Or the choir starts too early, during the reverb of the last organ accord, with a new song in a different key. I had to use Audacity to adjust some track transitions. I've never had these problems with BIS recordings.

BTW, Robert: The Windsbach Boys Choir did their last recording for Sony Classical in 2011. Their artistic director changed in 2012, so may be they are looking for a new record label. This ensemble is breathtaking, especially in acapella repertoire.

Post by scotttiger January 21, 2015 (3875 of 4131)
I cannot find a BIS recording of Kalevi Aho's symphonies 5 or 6. I'd like to suggest that these would make great SACD's, and complete the BIS cycle of existing symphonies by Aho.

Post by bissie January 22, 2015 (3876 of 4131)
scotttiger said:

I cannot find a BIS recording of Kalevi Aho's symphonies 5 or 6. I'd like to suggest that these would make great SACD's, and complete the BIS cycle of existing symphonies by Aho.

No, I know, I knooooow.
This is a problem. One of the 2 symphonies mentioned is scored for an orchestra of Mahler 8 size and is superhumanly difficult to play. The other is not even superhumanly difficult, it is impossible, and has never been performed, to the best of my knowledge. Believe it or not, we are anyway working hard on making this happen and do see some progress.

Robert

Post by scotttiger January 22, 2015 (3877 of 4131)
bissie said:

... we are anyway working hard on making this happen and do see some progress.

Robert

I believe you, I think that you must be speaking of number 6, since number 5 does at least have one recording available. In the past you've indicated that an Aho opera would be too costly, but Kokkonen (who you've certainly supported), Sallinen, and Rautavaara have opera's available, and Aho is there equal (at least). Also, the Sallinen symphony set on CPO is getting on in age, that would be a great sacd series. Did I mention that I like modern Finnish music?

Post by Simon V. January 22, 2015 (3878 of 4131)
scotttiger said:

. . . Did I mention that I like modern Finnish music?

I've been considering dipping my toe in Aho (if that's not a gross violation of his person). Would you care to characterize his music for me? How like is it to Rautavaara's, which I must admit I find the aural equivalent of a bad watercolour—just wishy washes of sound?

Post by krisjan January 22, 2015 (3879 of 4131)
I have 11 of Bis's Aho releases (3 chamber music and the rest orchestral). Aho's music is highly chromatic but, for me, quite unmemorable. There is nothing in his output that I love - admire, yes, love no. I have limited experience with Rautavarra's music but I would say they are not similar composers. Aho paints with brighter, bolder colors. There is a reasonable chance that none of these discs will ever sniff the interior of my disc player between now and the time the good Lord takes me home.

That being said, I would suggest that you try it for yourself. I would suggest BIS-706 (RBCD) with the Sym 9 and cello concerto as quite representative of his orchestral output. YMMV.

Post by Simon V. January 22, 2015 (3880 of 4131)
krisjan said:

I have 11 of Bis's Aho releases (3 chamber music and the rest orchestral). Aho's music is highly chromatic but, for me, quite unmemorable. There is nothing in his output that I love - admire, yes, love no. . . There is a reasonable chance that none of these discs will ever sniff the interior of my disc player between now and the time the good Lord takes me home.

Thanks for your frank appraisal. May I ask how you you came to have eleven discs of the stuff if you don't care for it? On second thought, no need: I'm a collector, too—I somehow ended up with complete sets of Parry's and Tippett's symphonies.

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