Thread: Met flogging iPods?

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Post by threerandot February 17, 2007 (1 of 9)
Here is a page from the Met's Official site with opera singers saying they use iPods to listen to their music. Shouldn't the Met also be promoting a hi-rez format like SACD? Maybe we should write to the Met and ask them to put out some SACDs of Met recordings?

http://www.metoperafamily.org/metopera/news/features/ipod.aspx

Shawn

Post by hYdrociTy March 6, 2007 (2 of 9)
threerandot said:

Here is a page from the Met's Official site with opera singers saying they use iPods to listen to their music. Shouldn't the Met also be promoting a hi-rez format like SACD? Maybe we should write to the Met and ask them to put out some SACDs of Met recordings?

http://www.metoperafamily.org/metopera/news/features/ipod.aspx

Shawn

No offense but maybe you haven't considered the whole picture? a generation 4 ipod paired with a nice amp for example:

The offerings from ray samuels:
http://www.stereophile.com/headphones/905ray/index.html
http://www.stereophile.com/budgetcomponents/906ray/index1.html

From headroom (www.headphone.com)
http://www.stereophile.com/accessoryreviews/1204headroom/index.html

There are so many others, like the portaphile v2^2 maxxed with LT1210, BlackgateNX 1500 caps (www.portaphile.com) which paired with the K501 has extension, layering, HF texture, and micro-detail that you would have to hear to believe.

and some good IEMS (etymotic er-4s, Westone UM2, UE super.fi 5 pro, Shure E4c) or full sized cans(senn, akg, grado, beyer etc) can destroy most mid-fi home systems...

Particularly nice setups I have:
ipod > a line out dock from ALO (www.aloaudio.com)--->

Portaphile v2^maxxed > K501
or
RSA Emmeline SR71 > HD580


Check it out!
www.head-fi.org/forums

no harsh feelings..
George
(>'-'>)

Post by duchski March 6, 2007 (3 of 9)
hYdrociTy said:

No offense but maybe you haven't considered the whole picture? a generation 4 ipod paired with a nice amp for example:

The offerings from ray samuels:
http://www.stereophile.com/headphones/905ray/index.html
http://www.stereophile.com/budgetcomponents/906ray/index1.html

From headroom (www.headphone.com)



































http://www.stereophile.com/accessoryreviews/1204headroom/index.html

There are so many others, like the portaphile v2^2 maxxed with LT1210, BlackgateNX 1500 caps (www.portaphile.com) which paired with the K501 has extension, layering, HF texture, and micro-detail that you would have to hear to believe.

and some good IEMS (etymotic er-4s, Westone UM2, UE super.fi 5 pro, Shure E4c) or full sized cans(senn, akg, grado, beyer etc) can destroy most mid-fi home systems...

Particularly nice setups I have:
ipod > a line out dock from ALO (www.aloaudio.com)--->

Portaphile v2^maxxed > K501
or
RSA Emmeline SR71 > HD580


Check it out!
www.head-fi.org/forums

no harsh feelings..
George
(>'-'>)

128K AAC compressed files (standard itunes format) fail miserably when played on any decent quality speakers... There is a way to have AAC lossless files on ipod but how many ipod fans even know about it?

You gotto be kidding here...

Post by Daland March 7, 2007 (4 of 9)
This site is about hi-rez, not the very opposite.

Post by Windsurfer March 7, 2007 (5 of 9)
Shawn has the right idea. We should write the met - if for no other reason than to let them know SACD exists and is a serious music lover's "ultimate" medium.

Post by hYdrociTy March 8, 2007 (6 of 9)
duchski said:

128K AAC compressed files (standard itunes format) fail miserably when played on any decent quality speakers... There is a way to have AAC lossless files on ipod but how many ipod fans even know about it?

You gotto be kidding here...

Being there are no(feasible) portable sacd solutions atm, it is better to have them listen to things on the go than not at all. AAC224VBR comes very close to original uncompressed based on spectrogram graphs I made on adobe audition. If not, flac on rockbox or apple lossless is also a choice? I'm pretty sure these people know enough to use lossless or wav/aiff at least if they are in the music world....

Until portable sacd players (with reasonable dac/analogue sections or a line out) are introduced then can you think of any other way to have music on the go where otherwise would be silence or noise? I think for artists and the met, it comes down ultimately to the music, not the gear- never forget that.

Post by hYdrociTy March 8, 2007 (7 of 9)
Daland said:

This site is about hi-rez, not the very opposite.

That is the whole point I agree..
but
not wholly relevant to the article of the met. Some of those interviewed use their ipods in portable fashion. Care to suggest how high resolution format is pertinent to their usage?

Sure if they are using their ipods as main source then we have a problem here, but out of the ten replies, four use them outside of home or any other stationary place. Sure some of the replies like I live out of my ipod or I play with itunes all day or “The iPod is easily the greatest invention of the last two decades. I use it for everything—from learning roles to listening to U2 or meditating before bed.” could warrant our enlightening them on high res, but let's be honest. Do we really have to trouble these souls by preaching our audiophile ways?

Some of these people who use itunes for example use it to explore music, style, etc. They all know what good music/sound is and I'm sure don't need our opinions. The met didn't ask about their home system did they?

How do you know these individuals don't have high resolution/analogue setups at home?

Be a bummer if we wrote and they replied in a matter that embarrassed us wouldn't it?

cheers,
George
( '-')

Post by seriousfun March 8, 2007 (8 of 9)
threerandot said:

Here is a page from the Met's Official site with opera singers saying they use iPods to listen to their music. Shouldn't the Met also be promoting a hi-rez format like SACD? Maybe we should write to the Met and ask them to put out some SACDs of Met recordings?

http://www.metoperafamily.org/metopera/news/features/ipod.aspx

Shawn

iPods can also play WAV and AIFF files. It's not much of a leap to think that they could play DSD in the future (I doubt this is on Apple's radar, though).

I would guess that the Met is trying to broaden their audience, not promote hirez audio :-)

Post by rosenkavalier817 March 8, 2007 (9 of 9)
seriousfun said:

I would guess that the Met is trying to broaden their audience, not promote hirez audio :-)

Bingo. They're trying to use the technology at their disposal to make opera more accessible (see the HD broadcasts into movie theaters). Obviously, this article was to make opera singers appear in touch with trendy technology. Everyone has iPods these days and, like it or not, a very comparatively small number have SACD players.

I have no problem with this article and the Met's current initiatives if they create more interest in opera, which given the attendance at the Met this year and the success of the Live in HD broadcasts, they appear to have done so.

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