Thread: International CES 2007 Show Report

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Post by dvda-sacd January 11, 2007 (1 of 25)
Read this:

"LG announced a dual format Blu-ray and HD DVD player! It was asked at the Pioneer conference if they plan on a like device and they said no at this time. Also of note, no DVD-Audio support on Pioneer's new Blu-ray players and i am not sure if SACD will be supported. As Sony's new Blu-ray unit does not support SACD, as reported within our industry news page, one can only wonder if there is any future for the format."

"It is now 2:30pm and fortunately my camping out for Bill Gates' conference is directly in front of a quite a few high-end audio exhibits. As such, have been meeting and chatting with various manufactures, distributors, and members of the press. During discussions it appears the general consensus that both DVD-Audio and SACD are dead. Don't blame me, i did not kill them. The real question my friends should be 'Which high-definition video format will prevail and what are the format's audio capabilities?'"

"Perhaps the 7.1-channel dts HD and TrueHD will be adopted by various audiophile labels."

http://www.enjoythemusic.com/ces2007/sunday/


Who is this guy? What does he know about the actual situation with the SACD format? It's incredible! You have to laugh.

Cheers! ;-D

Post by Julien January 11, 2007 (2 of 25)
He's a guy who chatted with many "specialists" and now believes that he fully understands the whole picture of world's audio and video market evolution!

Post by Perigo January 12, 2007 (3 of 25)

Post by deckerm January 12, 2007 (4 of 25)
Perigo said:

The pictures from this link are better: http://www.audiofederation.com/hifiing/2007/CES2007/day1/index.htm

there is some dead sexy gear in those pictures.

Post by Beagle January 12, 2007 (5 of 25)
"it appears the general consensus that both DVD-Audio and SACD are dead."
No. 1: At 2 new titles per day, SACD ain't dead yet.
No. 2: HDCD is dead, but not gone (you can still buy them).
No. 3: I've read a lot of business news where Blue-ray machines are not getting to market on schedule (and release being delayed by 6 mos to a year). There are problems: the finer resolution of blue-spectrum light means that aiming the laser is a lot more difficult. You can lithograph chips by the millions, but servo-mechanisms need to be built and shipped intact and maintained and fixed. Big Blue may be the first to push up daisies.

Post by The Seventh Taylor January 12, 2007 (6 of 25)
dvda-sacd quoted:

"As Sony's new Blu-ray unit does not support SACD, as reported within our industry news page, one can only wonder if there is any future for the format."

I wonder if they're talking about the BDP-S1, Sony's first-generation BD Player (which is actually a Pioneer clone) introduced late 2006 or about the really new models, which were first shown behind the scenes at this CES.

Admittedly, there's no sign of SACD playback here

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/docs/20070108/ces06.htm

but there's no information to the contrary either. There's generally very little detail in terms of features. Not even typenumbers, other than code names "Sapphire 1" and ~2.

I'm still optimistic Sony's going to add it once they've got their BD Player development on the rails (after PlayStation 3 and their BD Recorders).

Post by bmoura January 13, 2007 (7 of 25)
dvda-sacd said:

Read this:

"LG announced a dual format Blu-ray and HD DVD player! It was asked at the Pioneer conference if they plan on a like device and they said no at this time. Also of note, no DVD-Audio support on Pioneer's new Blu-ray players and i am not sure if SACD will be supported. As Sony's new Blu-ray unit does not support SACD, as reported within our industry news page, one can only wonder if there is any future for the format."

"It is now 2:30pm and fortunately my camping out for Bill Gates' conference is directly in front of a quite a few high-end audio exhibits. As such, have been meeting and chatting with various manufactures, distributors, and members of the press. During discussions it appears the general consensus that both DVD-Audio and SACD are dead. Don't blame me, i did not kill them. The real question my friends should be 'Which high-definition video format will prevail and what are the format's audio capabilities?'"

"Perhaps the 7.1-channel dts HD and TrueHD will be adopted by various audiophile labels."

http://www.enjoythemusic.com/ces2007/sunday/


Who is this guy? What does he know about the actual situation with the SACD format? It's incredible! You have to laugh.

Cheers! ;-D

Well, he's been anti-SACD from day 1 of the format. So those comments are not surprising.

In earlier postings on his web site, he referred to SACD as Sony's proprietary audio format, etc etc....

Post by The Seventh Taylor February 28, 2007 (8 of 25)
Well, one of Sony's two second-generation BD Players is now officially announced: the BDP-S300. Various new features including AVCHD playback (a new digital camcorder disc format), 1080p video output and, notably, RBCD playback (missing on the initial BDP-S1) but still no SACD.

Let's see what the other model will offer. Details on the BDP-S500 other than the typenumber haven't been disclosed yet.

http://news.sel.sony.com/en/press_room/consumer/home_audio_video/blu-ray_disc/release/28270.html

Post by The Seventh Taylor February 28, 2007 (9 of 25)
Oops -- double post

Post by Claude February 28, 2007 (10 of 25)
I guess Sony is rushing these Bluray players out (the first one came with no audio CD playback - ridiculous!), so the missing SACD playback doesn't necessarily reflect the official Sony SACD policy.

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