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Disc just arrived from Amazon.fr. Redbook is advertised as 2 CDs, and I’ve checked track by track listings on amazon and this is just 1 SACD selection of what’s on a redbook CDs.
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Post by izamber April 22, 2004 (2 of 14)
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beardawgs said:
Disc just arrived from Amazon.fr. Redbook is advertised as 2 CDs, and I’ve checked track by track listings on amazon and this is just 1 SACD selection of what’s on a redbook CDs.
Just received too, I came here to post a warning, you beat me :-)
Igor
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Post by zeus April 22, 2004 (3 of 14)
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beardawgs said:
Disc just arrived from Amazon.fr. Redbook is advertised as 2 CDs, and I’ve checked track by track listings on amazon and this is just 1 SACD selection of what’s on a redbook CDs.
I look forward to your review. This looks like a great disc (note the singular). Thanks for the update.
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Post by nickc April 22, 2004 (4 of 14)
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beardawgs said:
Disc just arrived from Amazon.fr. Redbook is advertised as 2 CDs, and I've checked track by track listings on amazon and this is just 1 SACD selection of what's on a redbook CDs.
hi beardawgs is this stereo or multichannel? that is the only crucial question for me. cheers nick
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Post by izamber April 23, 2004 (5 of 14)
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nickc said:
hi beardawgs is this stereo or multichannel? that is the only crucial question for me.
Stereo and 4.0 multichannel. The notes say they portrayed the peculiar arrangement of the 2 instrumental and 2 vocal ensembles in the multichannel mix. The recording is PCM 96/24.
Haven't had a chance to have a listen, though.
Igor
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Post by nickc April 23, 2004 (6 of 14)
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izamber said:
Stereo and 4.0 multichannel. The notes say they portrayed the peculiar arrangement of the 2 instrumental and 2 vocal ensembles in the multichannel mix. The recording is PCM 96/24.
Haven't had a chance to have a listen, though.
Igor
thanks igor. happy listening!
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Posting a review today for this magnificent disc, I saw a note in a review by nickc saying: “Voices come from the front and the two orchestras are on each side, sometimes calling and answering to each other. The effect is magical!”. Couldn’t help noticing that quite a while ago same reviewer thought of such an effect as trivial in his review of Channel Classics Christmas Oratorio: “maybe jared sacks could have put the echo in the echo aria in one of the rear speakers but it is fairly trivial in the scheme of things”.
Now, I’m a bit confused here – when Channel Classics ignores something that’s in composer’s view important for the performance - it’s trivial, but when Opus 111 respects composer’s vision to the letter - it’s magical. And I’m yet to hear a ‘magical’ production from CC.
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Post by LC January 20, 2005 (8 of 14)
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beardawgs said:
And I’m yet to hear a ‘magical’ production from CC.
I feel similarly. I really like Channel, and have many of their SA-CDs, but there aren't many I would point to as magical productions. In particular, the acclaim for the Christmas Oratorio's sonics seems a little overstated (as I've noted before in comparing it to two HM Bach vocal SA-CDs). I think the best claim Channel has of magical production (for Early Music, that is) might be the excellent Florilegium recordings. Can't wait for the new Bolivian Baroque - Florilegium.
Regarding the Vivaldi disc under discussion, I must say that its tremendous quality makes it all the greater a shame that it is only an "Extracts" version, and a shame that none of the other titles in the Vivaldi Edition (or anything at all from Opus 111) have been released on SA-CD.
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Post by nickc January 20, 2005 (9 of 14)
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beardawgs said:
Posting a review today for this magnificent disc, I saw a note in a review by nickc saying: “Voices come from the front and the two orchestras are on each side, sometimes calling and answering to each other. The effect is magical!”. Couldn’t help noticing that quite a while ago same reviewer thought of such an effect as trivial in his review of Channel Classics Christmas Oratorio: “maybe jared sacks could have put the echo in the echo aria in one of the rear speakers but it is fairly trivial in the scheme of things”.
Now, I’m a bit confused here – when Channel Classics ignores something that’s in composer’s view important for the performance - it’s trivial, but when Opus 111 respects composer’s vision to the letter - it’s magical. And I’m yet to hear a ‘magical’ production from CC.
Hi Beardawgs The reason I differentiated between the two was that the whole Vivaldi disc is set up with orchestras to the sides. I think you've misunderstood what I meant by trivial in the Bach review. In the Channel Christmas Oratorio it is 5 minutes out of approximately two hours worth of music; I meant trivial in that sense. I would much prefer a well played and recorded disc with the echo incorrectly done than a boring, indifferently recorded disc with the echo coming from somewhere yonder. Anyway, reading back I wouldn't by any stretch of the imagination call that review one of my finest! Cheers Nick
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Post by nickc January 20, 2005 (10 of 14)
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LC said:
I feel similarly. I really like Channel, and have many of their SA-CDs, but there aren't many I would point to as magical productions. In particular, the acclaim for the Christmas Oratorio's sonics seems a little overstated (as I've noted before in comparing it to two HM Bach vocal SA-CDs). I think the best claim Channel has of magical production (for Early Music, that is) might be the excellent Florilegium recordings. Can't wait for the new Bolivian Baroque - Florilegium.
Regarding the Vivaldi disc under discussion, I must say that its tremendous quality makes it all the greater a shame that it is only an "Extracts" version, and a shame that none of the other titles in the Vivaldi Edition (or anything at all from Opus 111) have been released on SA-CD.
Hi Lyle I too can't wait for the new Florilegium disc to be released. I don't know whether you have it but the Harmonia Mundi disc with Andrew Lawrence-King and the Harp Consort called "Missa Mexicana" is fantastic in the same vein (though, once again looking back on my earlier reviews I cringe to see they are pretty threadbare!). Cheers Nick
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