Post by Edvin June 28, 2006 (21 of 66)
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Dan,
I agree with you completely. I must also explain that I feel no urge for surround mixes of The Beatles where the instruments and voices are spread around the individual speakers. IMO Pete Townshends surround mix of Tommy should stand as a model for all surround re-mixes.
Apropos mono, if my memory serves me right Abbey Road was the first Beatles album that was issued in stereo only, and in the earlier days it was the mono mix that was given presedence. I don´t mind mono, but I want it from my six speakers. When EMI re-released the Hollies catalogue it was the mono mixes that had the more punch, I am talking about the sixties albums, of course.
Thomas
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Post by Dan Popp June 28, 2006 (22 of 66)
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Edvin said:
...and in the earlier days it was the mono mix that was given presedence. ....
When EMI re-released the Hollies catalogue it was the mono mixes that had the more punch, I am talking about the sixties albums, of course.
Thomas,
Yes, the boys were not even in the room when the stereo mixes were done - perhaps GM was having tea as well. It says something about the size of the canvas on which the Beatles were working.
In theory, mono can be both objectively louder and subjectively punchier, perfectly suited for "rock 'n' roll."
BTW, I should have mentioned in my previous comments re: "...Naked" that many people probably believe that this is simply a remix from the original tapes. According to a "Mix" magazine article at the time, computer manipulation was involved in lining up disparate takes, etc. So, while it may well have been the artists' original intent, it would not have been possible for the boys to release it that way in 1970. My comments were probably confusing without that bit of info.
Thanks for the exchange.
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Post by Verro18 June 28, 2006 (23 of 66)
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terence said:
i like them both. and i can't wait to hear all the 5.1 material discussed above when the copy of anthology i've just ordered arrives.
how amazing it WOULD be were all (or some of) the pre-mix down tapes for, say, sgt pepper's or abbey road available and somebody were able to do a decent MC job on them....
Terence, I thought you would be happy to learn that George Martin and his son Giles did use the original unmixed master tapes of the Beatles' sessions for the MC soundtrack of "Love". Oh, and George Martin wrote new strings arrangements for "While my Guitar Gently Weeps". Those arrangements were added to the demo version of the song that was on Anthology-3-
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Post by terence June 28, 2006 (24 of 66)
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fascinating - thanks....
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Post by terence July 2, 2006 (25 of 66)
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Dan Popp said:
Well, George Martin's earlier book....
which george martin books are these? i'd like to read them.
just listened to episode 1 of this in DTS 5.1 - there is some fabulous multichannel material, especially of the early studio recordings.
despite the fascinating information contributed earlier in this thread, i still don't really undertsnad how they could have done this, unless they have multi-track tapes of the original mono-mix releases. is that the likely scenario?
i'm also pretty certain i heard at about the 23:20 mark the final chord of sgt pepper's a day in the life (or something that sounded very like it) in glorious 5.1. if i'm right, i wonder what the chances are of someday getting the other 95% of it?!
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rieux said:
In those days (After 1966), there were only 4 track machines...
The Beatles first used 4-track early in 1964 for the "I Want To Hold Your Hand" single. They continued using 4-track right up until 1968 when Abbey Road finally got 8-track. They used that 8-track for the "white album" and their subsequent recordings until the breakup.
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Post by Dan Popp July 7, 2006 (27 of 66)
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terence said:
which george martin books are these? i'd like to read them.
terence,
Unfortunately I can't remember the title. I think he wrote a more general book of reminiscences fairly recently, but the book in question dealt more with recording techniques, etc., and was probably published in the 80's. They say that, with age, the mind is the second thing to go. Can't remember the first.
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Post by Verro18 July 8, 2006 (28 of 66)
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Post by terence October 3, 2006 (29 of 66)
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Post by Edvin October 3, 2006 (30 of 66)
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The film has been remastered with 5.1 sound, not the cd.
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