Thread: Mahler: Symphony No. 1 "Titan" (Finnish Radio Symphony Orchestra, Hannu Lintu)

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Post by Luukas September 29, 2015 (1 of 19)
After their successful Sibelius disc, Hannu Lintu and the Finnish Radio Symphony Orchestra recorded the one of the greatest orchestral classic: Mahler's First Symphony. The disc has been recorded at the Helsinki Music Centre and will be available on 30 October 2015. I'm looking forward to get this one...

Post by Luukas September 29, 2015 (2 of 19)
The back cover...

Post by Panaeff September 29, 2015 (3 of 19)
Luukas said:

I'm looking forward to get this one...

You and perhaps 4 other people in the world. Seems rather unnecessary.

What do YOU think?

Post by Luukas September 29, 2015 (4 of 19)
Panaeff said:

You and perhaps 4 other people in the world. Seems rather unnecessary.

What do YOU think?

During his period Hannu Lintu has raised the orchestra for the platform - their recordings has received critically acclaimed reviews. This newcomer is also an interesting addition for their catalogue: Mahler isn't the "basic" composer in Finland, Sibelius is more familiar for us. The Helsinki Music Centre offers an impressive space to the multi-channel recordings.

Have you heard the previous disc of the team Sibelius: Lemminkäinen Suite, Pohjola's Daughter - Lintu? ClassicsToday gave 10/10 "Lemminkäinen Returns on SACD, Powerfully" and BBC Music Magazine reviewed the disc with the double four stars results. Classical Music wrote: "this is one of the most impressive versions of the four Legends in recent years" and Gramophone noted: "Textures are sifted with skill, chosen tempi are unfailingly judicious and Lintu shows a canny awareness of the bigger scheme...".

This is the reason for my waiting.

Post by Euell Neverno September 29, 2015 (5 of 19)
Well, for the Mahler 1 on SACD, we have Tilson Thomas, Zinman, Zander, Fischer, Stenz, Nott, Petrenko, Oramo, Jansons, Inbal, Honeck, Haitink, Gergiev, and Ashkenazy. There are several other modern recordings of the Mahler 1 on SACD from lesser known conductors as well, and then there are the SACD reissues of prior recordings, such as Bernstein and Tennstedt. Perhaps Lintu has something unique to say in the Mahler 1, but, as you can see, the odds are against it.

Post by wehecht September 29, 2015 (6 of 19)
Well to be fair he does have Blumine, but then so does Zinman. I agree with Luukas' remarks about Lintu's recent Sibelius recording, but it's hard to imagine the need for any additional Mahler 1 recordings from any source.

Post by Luukas September 29, 2015 (7 of 19)
Euell Neverno said:

Well, for the Mahler 1 on SACD, we have Tilson Thomas, Zinman, Zander, Fischer, Stenz, Nott, Petrenko, Oramo, Jansons, Inbal, Honeck, Haitink, Gergiev, and Ashkenazy. There are several other modern recordings of the Mahler 1 on SACD from lesser known conductors as well, and then there are the SACD reissues of prior recordings, such as Bernstein and Tennstedt. Perhaps Lintu has something unique to say in the Mahler 1, but, as you can see, the odds are against it.

Yes, I see it. Of course I know that we have many available SACDs of Mahler's 1. There aren't a long Mahler tradition in Finland: in fact the music of Mahler found its way into the hearts just approximately 20-30 years ago. It will be interesting what the reviewers will write about this new album.
Ondine's SACDs - which are mostly engineered by the Editroom (Enno Mäemets, the main engineer) - are always very impressive and I think that this one will be also a great pleasure for many.

Post by Luukas September 29, 2015 (8 of 19)
wehecht said:

Well to be fair he does have Blumine, but then so does Zinman. I agree with Luukas' remarks about Lintu's recent Sibelius recording, but it's hard to imagine the need for any additional Mahler 1 recordings from any source.

Bill, you have a point. We don't need necessary a new Mahler 1 on SACD, but it is important that we have the albums to choose.

Post by Ubertrout September 29, 2015 (9 of 19)
As others have said, meh. It's not that the recording will be bad, but I think there's more feeling that maybe recording times and budgets would be better spent on about anything else in the repertoire. Mahler is one of my favorites, but the market is saturated.

I think there's a few composers who we've hit a saturation point on...Mahler and Bruckner are the obvious ones, along with Beethoven, and I feel like there's an awful lot of high-res Shostakovich cycles out there too. And I can't imagine we're going to need another high-res Nielsen cycle after the NY Philharmonic, LSO, and BIS cycles.

Post by Joseph Ponessa September 29, 2015 (10 of 19)
wehecht said:

Well to be fair he does have Blumine, but then so does Zinman.

I spent several days a few months ago listening to all my Mahler FIRST recordings, and was not impressed by the pack overall.
On Blu-ray the Abbado video has a strange mastering that squeezes the picture unnaturally on my TV, the only disc in my whole collection that does this (on both the separate release and as part of the boxed set on the same disc with the SECOND). The Harding and Järvi Blu-rays are maimed by audio compression.
There are not very many audio recordings that include the Blumine movement, and only half of those put it in the proper sequence with the other movements.
The Zinman and Hannu Lintu SACDs include the Blumine, but tacked on at the end.
Fortunately there are two SACDS, by Vriend and Förster, with the Blumine in proper sequence, and these two therefore hold pride of place.

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