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rammiepie said:
Bite your tongue, Gerald.
Where there's money to be made, you can bet your bippie that 4K will also be the province of Hollywood's golden Oldies.......
Citizen Kane in 4K.....what do you think?
The question remains: will Gerald be ready for it?
As well it might be time to purchase your significant other a pair of rhinestone encrusted 3D glasses.
After all, Gerald if it's good enough for the Queen........http://www.styleite.com/news/queen-elizabeth-3d-glasses/slide/2/
Heck, Gerald....you might well become a Spiderman (in 3D) fan.....MARVELous!
I have never used my 3D glasses ,as for the Queen IMO she was just used for promotion purposes , again I say I have no interest whatsoever in 4K and I have wasted money by buying Blu-Ray versions of The Adventures of Robin Hood (DVD is superb) and Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, so I definately will not be buying any remastered versions of Citizen Kane etc.
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Disbeliever said:
I have never used my 3D glasses ,as for the Queen IMO she was just used for promotion purposes , again I say I have no interest whatsoever in 4K and I have wasted money by buying Blu-Ray versions of The Adventures of Robin Hood (DVD is superb) and Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, so I definately will not be buying any remastered versions of Citizen Kane etc.
Touché, Gerald!
Your loss.......4K to videophiles is like being touched by an Angel!
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rammiepie said:
Touché, Gerald!
Your loss.......4K to videophiles is like being touched by an Angel!
Hi Ralph
When do you sleep, whilst watching videos, ha.
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Post by Iain June 17, 2015 (34 of 38)
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Fitzcaraldo215 said:
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In any case, the 4k BD player spec is out and we will likely see the first players later this year. But, the player spec includes significant enhancements to standards over what is now being sold in 4k sets in stores. Those current TVs will likely be superseded by new models to meet the now higher standards for color space, dynamic range, etc. set by UltraHD Blu-Ray. I doubt that many - any ? - consumer sets now meet those specs. So, sorry if you already bought one. Although, some manufacturers have promised retrofits to recently purchased sets to meet the new standard, Samsung, for example.
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Also, I see nothing to indicate that 4k discs are playable on a conventional BD player. There is no room, even in a new spec 100 gig disc, for both. So, retailers will face a dual inventory problem with 2k and 4k discs.
In any case, an outstanding analysis of the new UltraHD BD standard, what it does and how it works is in the June 2015 issue of Widescreen Review. It is technical, but even I could comprehend it.
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http://www.thedigitalbits.com/columns/my-two-cents/051215_1230
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Here’s the press release…
Blu-ray Disc Association Completes Ultra HD Blu-ray™ Specification and Releases New Logo
Format Licensing on Schedule to Commence Summer 2015
LOS ANGELES– May 12, 2015 – The Blu-ray Disc Association (BDA) today announced completion of the Ultra HD Blu-ray™ specification and released the new logo that will delineate Ultra HD
Blu-ray products. The Ultra HD Blu-ray specification, which represents the work of global leaders from the consumer electronics, IT and content creation industries, will enable delivery of Ultra HD content via Ultra HD Blu-ray Disc to the rapidly growing number of UHD TV households.
“For years, Blu-ray Disc™ has set the standard for high definition picture and audio quality in the home. Ultra HD Blu-ray will do the same for UHD home entertainment," said Victor Matsuda, chair, BDA Promotions Committee. “The technical capabilities of Blu-ray Disc, in particular its significant storage capacity and high data transfer rates, will enable the delivery of an unparalleled, consistent and repeatable UHD experience."
The completed Ultra HD Blu-ray specification addresses a range of factors, beyond simply increasing resolution, that will significantly enhance the home entertainment experience for consumers. In addition to delivering content in up-to 3840x2160 resolution, the Ultra HD Blu-ray format enables delivery of a significantly expanded color range and allows for the delivery of high dynamic range (HDR) and high frame rate content. Next-generation immersive, object-based sound formats will also be delivered via the Ultra HD Blu-ray specification. Additionally, with the optional digital bridge feature, the specification enhances the value of content ownership by embracing the notion that a content purchase can enable the consumer to view their content across the range of in-home and mobile devices.
The specification also mandates all new Ultra HD Blu-ray players be capable of playing back current Blu-ray Discs, giving consumers access to the vast library of more than 10,000 titles currently available on Blu-ray Disc.
Licensing of Ultra HD Blu-ray is scheduled to begin this Summer. The BDA is working closely with industry leaders in the authoring, testing, certification and replication industries to develop the tools and process needed to ensure interoperability between players and software and to facilitate the development of a robust ecosystem to support the hardware and title launch of Ultra HD Blu-ray.
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What a waste of time & money
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Fitzcaraldo215 said:
BTW - I was pleasantly surprised to learn that there is no UltraHD BD spec for 3D. That will have to be watched from 2k BDs. The industry may be cutting its losses there.
Whilst I agree that 3D blu ray hasn't been an overwhelming commercial success, there is also a technical issue preventing true 4K 3D blu ray, that of capacity.
Although 4K UHD Blu ray uses greater capacity than existing 2K Blu ray, we should remember that 3D Blu rays effectively run two 1080P video streams stacked and so are in themselves very large files.
To do this with two 4K video streams would present a huge file, perhaps greater than even the new capacity UHD Blu ray disc is capable of containing ( particularly in view of the fact that additional data such as greater frame rates and HDR may be added ). Maybe 3D 4K movies could be spread across 2 discs as has been seen with the Hobbit and LOTR 3D Blu ray releases but I accept that is unlikely as swapping discs mid way through a movie is not popular either.
That said I understand that 3D blu rays played through a 4K TV still look very good. I am a fan of 3D so if standard Blu rays continue to offer 3D I'd be happy to use these through a 4K TV myself, heck I'd buy 2 copies, the 2K 3D version and the 2D 4K version : )
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Disbeliever said:
What a waste of time & money
Good. Then don't "waste" yours. All the rest of us who love great quality viewing will gladly "waste" ours.
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Yoropiko1 said:
Whilst I agree that 3D blu ray hasn't been an overwhelming commercial success, there is also a technical issue preventing true 4K 3D blu ray, that of capacity.
I agree that the capacity issue probably makes 4k 3-d infeasible , though the UHD BD disc has its max. capacity doubled to 100gig from 50 and also has a compression scheme that is about 2 x as efficient. But, it needs all that added capacity for just the added pixels, 60 frames/sec. and the increased bits for the enhanced color gamut in 2d.
But, as we can see, 4k video in 2-d is going to be running at an an exceptionally high bit rate. Streamed 4k just will not be able to deliver the video quality of the discs due to the bandwidth required, even less so than the current situation with just HD. Discs will likely still be around for quite awhile for 4k video, in preference to streaming.
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