Thread: Pentatone announces DGG re-releases

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Post by Claude February 11, 2015 (61 of 105)
Luukas,

Pentatone has so far limited themselves to reissues of quad recordings, and I don't think the legendary Mahler 9 live recording was recorded in quad. As you probably know, it was recently released on SACD by Esoteric.
Post by Luukas February 11, 2015 (62 of 105)
Claude said:

Luukas,

Pentatone has so far limited themselves to reissues of quad recordings, and I don't think the legendary Mahler 9 live recording was recorded in quad. As you probably know, it was recently released on SACD by Esoteric.
Oh, yes.
Post by Luukas February 11, 2015 (63 of 105)
There is also Herbert von Karajan's performance with Berliner Philharmoniker. Perhaps it was recorded in quad.
Post by Ubertrout February 11, 2015 (64 of 105)
Luukas said:

Here are my own wishes to Pentatone's REMASTERED CLASSICS series...
So, I think you're a little off on the dates for quadraphonic recordings...most of them were made in the early-mid 70s. By the late 70s, while the recordings were all being done to 8 or 16 tracks or more, there was no quad master being produced. Except for a few recordings of unusual value, DGG and other labels have shown little interest in going through the cost of producing a new multichannel master from the original multitrack tapes.

As a result, you're only going to see releases from Pentatone where a quad master already exists, and that's going to mostly be recordings from 1970-1975 or so. A more interesting question is whether Pentatone will get access to the scores of quad recordings done by Decca (which I would think would be doable given their connection to Universal).
Post by Clavicembalisticum February 12, 2015 (65 of 105)
Do they absolutely have to have been recorded in quad? I would think that most recordings had a pair of mics in the rear of the hall to pick up room ambience and were most likely assigned to separate tracks. Couldn't they be used for the rear channels?
Post by Ubertrout February 12, 2015 (66 of 105)
Could be, but they'd have to go back to the original multitracks and create a new MCH master. Pentatone has just been taking existing 4-channel masters and releasing those - much less of an expense.
Post by JohnProffitt February 13, 2015 (67 of 105)
Ubertrout said:

So, I think you're a little off on the dates for quadraphonic recordings...most of them were made in the early-mid 70s. By the late 70s, while the recordings were all being done to 8 or 16 tracks or more, there was no quad master being produced. Except for a few recordings of unusual value, DGG and other labels have shown little interest in going through the cost of producing a new multichannel master from the original multitrack tapes.

As a result, you're only going to see releases from Pentatone where a quad master already exists, and that's going to mostly be recordings from 1970-1975 or so. A more interesting question is whether Pentatone will get access to the scores of quad recordings done by Decca (which I would think would be doable given their connection to Universal).
Even more compelling/exciting IMO would be for Pentatone to gain access to the Quadraphonic masters from EMI UK, Electrola Germany and Angel USA. Some incredible treasures there!
Post by Luukas February 13, 2015 (68 of 105)
Karl Böhm's interpretation of Strauss' "Salome" (1970) is also would be nice on SACD.
Post by Ubertrout February 13, 2015 (69 of 105)
JohnProffitt said:

Even more compelling/exciting IMO would be for Pentatone to gain access to the Quadraphonic masters from EMI UK, Electrola Germany and Angel USA. Some incredible treasures there!
Totally agreed. The EMI DVD-Audio releases only scratched the surface. I suspect that Pentatone has a much closer line to Universal, given that they've done all the Philips and now the DG quad masters, but if Warner wants to try to monetize their fairly expensive purchase on favorable terms to Pentatone, all the better for us.
Post by Luukas March 23, 2015 (70 of 105)
The quadraphonic tapes were in use between the late 1960s to the early 1980s. (According the REMASTERED CLASSICS booklet which arrived with "La Damnation de Faust")

My wishes:

- MAHLER, GUSTAV: Symphony No. 3 in D minor
Jessye Norman (soprano), Konzertvereinigung Wiener Staatsopernchor, Wiener Sängerknaben, Wiener Philharmoniker, Claudio Abbado (Recorded in 1980)

- PAGANINI, NICCOLO: 24 Caprices for Solo Violin, Op. 1
Shlomo Mintz (Recorded in 1981)

- SHOSTAKOVICH, DMITRI: Symphony No. 10 in E minor, Op. 93
Berliner Philharmoniker, Herbert von Karajan (Recorded in 1981)

- HOLST, GUSTAV: The Planets, Op. 32 & STRAUSS, RICHARD: Also sprach Zarathustra (Thus spoke Zarathustra), Op. 30
Boston Symphony Orchestra, New England Conservatory Chorus, William Steinberg (Recorded in 1970 and 1971)

- MAHLER, GUSTAV: Symphony No. 9 in D major
Chicago Symphony Orchestra, Carlo Maria Giulini (Recorded in 1976)

- TCHAIKOVSKY, PJOTR ILYICH: Symphony No. 1 in G minor "Winter Daydreams" & DEBUSSY, CLAUDE: Images for Orchestra
Boston Symphony Orchestra, Michael Tilson Thomas (Recorded in 1970 & 1971)

- VERDI, GIUSEPPE: Rigoletto
Plácido Domingo, Ileana Cotrubas, Walter Gullino, Piero Cappuccilli, Luigi De Corato, Nicolai Ghiaurov, Hanna Schwarz, Dirk Sagemüller, Audrey Michael & Kurt Moll
Wiener Staatsopernchor, Wiener Philharmoniker, Carlo Maria Giulini (Recorded in 1979)

- BRAHMS, JOHANNES: Symphony No. 4 in E minor, Op. 98
Wiener Philharmoniker, Carlos Kleiber (Recorded in 1980)

- LISZT, FRANZ: A Faust Symphony, S108
Kenneth Riegel (tenor), Tanglewood Festival Chorus, Boston Symphony Orchestra, Leonard Bernstein (Recorded in 1976)

- SIBELIUS, JEAN: Pelléas et Mélisande, Op. 46 & Tapiola, Op. 112
Berliner Philharmoniker, Herbert von Karajan (Recorded in 1982 & 1984)

And - once again - this classic:

- WEBER, CARL MARIA VON: Der Freischütz, J277
Peter Schreier (Max), Theo Adam (Caspar), Edith Mathis (Aenchen), Gundula Janowitz (Agathe)
Rundfunkchor Leipzig, Staatskapelle Dresden, Carlos Kleiber (Recorded in 1973)
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