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Discussion: John Coltrane: A Love Supreme

Posts: 4

Post by Dead Man April 6, 2014 (1 of 4)
Picked this up a couple of days back and got to cranking it out yesterday morning. I won't go into any kind of review except to say that if you love this album you've probably already got this release, because you can't have too many copies of A Love Supreme.

But imagine the shock to my left ear during the third track Pursuance, at about 19:16 on my Oppo's clock, when there's a short but harsh and noticeable 'buzz' right in the middle of Coltrane's improvisatory flight. I listened to it a couple of times to rule out any random equipment failure but it was still there.

So of course it's time to pull out the 2CD Deluxe Edition as a comparison. Nothing. Not a buzz, blurt or squelch. I've also found no other references to this in the reviews online so I'm going to ask the forum if anybody else has got this same egregious noise at 19:16, or do I have some kind of glitch disc?

Post by zeus April 6, 2014 (2 of 4)
In future when you want to discuss a particular title, use the "start discussion" or "join discussion" link from the relevant title details page. This way what you have to say won't disappear into the ether as it rolls off the forum's first few pages.

Post by Marpow February 2, 2015 (3 of 4)
I have received and have listened to this BD~A stereo only disc. I have no experience with any other versions.

Nutshell: Sounds absolutely fantastic. Very stereo in studio recordings. Sax left, bass and piano center, and drums right. As example a drum solo will just stay right and does not appear to be mixed to partial left.

Small package notes on reissue:
Reissue supervised by Bob Levenson.
Mastered by Kevin Reeves at Universal Mastering Studios-East
Tape Research Andy Skurow
A&R Coordination Kyle Benson
Production Coordination Cameron Mizell
Package Design Isabell Wong/isthetic

Three, 96Khz/24 bit versions to listen to, I chose the PCM 96Khz/24 bit, seemed a bit more natural.

The 4 track studio stereo is perfect sounding and the 9 track in France live bonus tracks are equally awesome and recorded very strong. The mix is a little bit more modern? in the live recording. For instance Coltrane now comes center and the entire mix is more evenly distributed.

I do like the separation of the studio recording a little better. Track 5 of the live is pretty awesome.

Anyway, sounds great to me. BTW: no buzz was heard by me as Dead Man reviewed.

Hope this helps Undertone.

Post by undertone February 3, 2015 (4 of 4)
Many thanks for posting the liner notes and listener responses, Mark.

From your description, it seems that the HFPA disc is sourced from the same 2002 transfer used in the Deluxe Version CD set. According to the liner notes by author Ashley Kahn included in that set, a copy of the master tape was located in EMI's London archives.

"All previous digital incarnations... had been derived from a 1971 second-generation master tape [which] did add equalization and compression to the original recording... A March 1965 master was found at EMI's London vaults... It had no added equalization or compression. A relieved Rudy Van Gelder declared it to be as close to the real thing as one could get in the analog domain without having the original tape."

The tape search must have been undertaken because the original master was either damaged or could not be located.

Neither the Analogue Productions SACD liner notes nor the Acoustic Sounds website discloses whether the UK tape copy, the 2002 digital files, or some other source was used by Kevin Gray to master the SACD. It's unfortunate that AP doesn't share this information with its customers; if the AP SACD is different in kind from the studio recordings contained on the HFPA Blu-Ray disc, Acoustic Sounds should say so. Likewise, if Kevin Reeves at Universal ran a new tape transfer to 24/96 different from the RVG-supervised transfer, the Blu-Ray disc liner notes should have contained that information.

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