Thread: Upcoming Blu-Ray Audio Releases

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Post by Jon Benger April 25, 2014 (21 of 41)
I notice that the Berlin Phil are starting their own label. First release of Schumann symphonies bundles a hi-res blu-ray (including multichannel) and an even higher-res download.

Post by Tourboots April 25, 2014 (22 of 41)
As the UMG BluRay discs are listed here, I do wonder what they were thinking about with the choice of releases. I have many as SACDs and with surround sound. To not even think that people would be interested in surround sound I find truly amazing. I just wonder how many of these discs they will sell, if a few will they then say the format is not popular or is it that they have just got it wrong, as they did with SACD in my view.

Post by fredblue April 25, 2014 (23 of 41)
Rather a good article here including an interview with the head honcho's behind HFPA (the main draw is the head of HFPA saying that a lot more 5.1 is coming to HFPA, across Classical & Rock/Pop & Jazz)..

http://www.stereophile.com/content/u...audio-blu-rays

An excerpt from it:

Serinus: How many Blu-ray releases do you plan for 2014, and in what genres? Can we find the list online?


Robert-Murphy: As of today, Universal has 100 hi-res Blu-rays available. There are probably over 100 more others available from other companies [eg, Naxos].


Joshua Phillips: It's going to be a big year for Pure Audio Blu-ray. We're in the process of completing the international release of our first new front-line title, George Michael's Symphonica. This is a big deal for us, because he's a big international high-profile artist.


We also had our big classical conference here this week. I met with the folks from Decca and Deutsche Grammophon, and they're really excited about the format. There will definitely be some movement fairly soon on some major titles we began work on quite some time back. I'll give you this information as soon as it's confirmed. We're looking to roll out 20–30 new titles in the next couple of months.


Robert-Murphy: Most of them will be from Decca, and appear in 5.1.


Phillips: One of the challenges we faced quite early on is that people who purchase Blu-rays have a real demand for surround sound and 5.1. We initially focused solely on the quality issue, but we found out quite quickly that people buying Blu-rays want 5.1 mixes in addition to stereo mixes. It depends on your personal taste, whether you'd rather have trumpets coming from the back of your head or sit as you would at a normal concert and have stereo. But one of our definite intentions this year is to get 5.1 masters onto Blu-ray, so people can choose from either 5.1 or stereo.


Serinus: You won't be remixing stereo masters into 5.1, will you?


Robert-Murphy: If they want this, they will be killed and crucified in a public place. You can quote me.

Post by rammiepie April 25, 2014 (24 of 41)
"They will be killed and crucified in a public place."

Thus quoted Robert Oliver Murphy, head honcho of HFPA, when asked in Stereophile for those consumers wanting stereo masters remixed for 5.1.

I asked this question initially and I will ask it again: Is this man for real?

Having just read James Guthrie's fascinating article on remixing Roger Waters "Amused to Death" for 5.1 and the passion he had for the material and for the quality of the remix, why did they put a yokel like Murphy in charge of the HFPA launch in the first place?

Post by fredblue April 25, 2014 (25 of 41)
rammiepie said:

"They will be killed and crucified in a public place."

Thus quoted Robert Oliver Murphy, head honcho of HFPA, when asked in Stereophile for those consumers wanting stereo masters remixed for 5.1.

I asked this question initially and I will ask it again: Is this man for real?

Having just read James Guthrie's fascinating article on remixing Roger Waters "Amused to Death" for 5.1 and the passion he had for the material and for the quality of the remix, why did they put a yokel like Murphy in charge of the HFPA launch in the first place?

I read it to mean upmixing 2.0 to 5.1 rather than remixing multi's.

Post by rammiepie April 25, 2014 (26 of 41)
fredblue said:

I read it to mean upmixing 2.0 to 5.1 rather than remixing multi's.

I thought the very same thing initially, Adam, but VERY few albums are recorded direct to two track and multitracks exist for almost all recordings made since the late 60's.

The biggest problem (and expense) is locating the actual master multitrack elements and since some of them ARE in rough (read: unusable) shape, an impediment to an actual/successful multichannel remix.

If Murphy WAS an advocate of multichannel this would be less of a problem but since the man has a distaste for the format, a REAL impediment to 'attempting' any mch remixes from scratch!

And yes, Adam, if an album is recorded in two channel or even mono, I would prefer to hear it in its native format (and not phony stereo nor phony surround).

BTW, how is the YES album? Mine is en route from England.

Post by Disbeliever April 25, 2014 (27 of 41)
Philips: I definately do not want trumpets coming out of the back of my head.I want accurately recorded mch sound with only reflected ambience from the rear.

Post by rammiepie April 25, 2014 (28 of 41)
Disbeliever said:

Philips: I definately do not want trumpets coming out of the back of my head.I want accurately recorded mch sound with only reflected ambience from the rear.

Then, Gerald, stay clear of Tacet's 5.1 offerings......you'll get way more than mere trumpets emanating from the rears!

But some antiphonal recordings (Gabrieli comes to mind) do employ this "gimmick...." so if it is indeed a part of the recording then I'm all for trumpets coming from the rears.

Post by fredblue April 25, 2014 (29 of 41)
rammiepie said:

I thought the very same thing initially, Adam, but VERY few albums are recorded direct to two track and multitracks exist for almost all recordings made since the late 60's.

The biggest problem (and expense) is locating the actual master multitrack elements and since some of them ARE in rough (read: unusable) shape, an impediment to an actual/successful multichannel remix.

If Murphy WAS an advocate of multichannel this would be less of a problem but since the man has a distaste for the format, a REAL impediment to 'attempting' any mch remixes from scratch!

And yes, Adam, if an album is recorded in two channel or even mono, I would prefer to hear it in its native format (and not phony stereo nor phony surround).

BTW, how is the YES album? Mine is en route from England.

The new Yes BDA is terrific in all respects, rammie! You'll love it! Mr.Wilson really has surpassed himself with the remixes.

Post by rammiepie April 25, 2014 (30 of 41)
fredblue said:

The new Yes BDA is terrific in all respects, rammie! You'll love it! Mr.Wilson really has surpassed himself with the remixes.

Fantastico! Should have mine by next week.

Just spun the DVD~A 5.1 of Billion Dollar Babies: superb sounding album/GREAT remix. A natural for Warner's BD~A launch.

Am still waiting to get my Meridian back. Have a LOT to catch up with.

Have a superb week~end, Adam.

BTW, have you ever heard the Silverline DVD~A 5.1 of Gerry Rafferty's "Can I Have My Money Back." Not really discreet but a great sounding reissue with an immersive soundfield. Was way cheap back in the day.
Unfortunately, Silverline got a bad rap but some of their 5.1 releases were really superb and worth checking out (i.e. the FIXX: 1011 Woodland & Styx: Cyclorama: Both discrete MLP 5.1 96/24 and The Best of the Sugarhill Gang....was supposed to be a RHINO release but ended up on Silverline, and also Grandmaster Flash: Melle Mel & The Furious Five Greatest Hits also 5.1 and another Rhino transplant to Silverline)

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