Post by Lockout June 22, 2013 (1 of 26)
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samayoeruorandajin said:
Yes, they do.
It would seem likely, but that is a rather bold assertion you make here. Can you cite evidence for this, please?
Whether or no this applies, I can advise that the most recent single layer EMIs I have heard from Japan definitely seem to sound better than their earlier hybrid brethren. This surprised me.
However, I am not sure whether the Japanese 2-symphony releases are single layer. I suspect not.
BTW, the 6-symphony Klemperer Mozart set from EMI/Europe is a bit of a sonic stinker. An abject lesson, in fact, in how not to remaster golden age analogue recordings. But we have been through that one many times, of course.
And you either love or loathe the great man's tempi in Mozart, needless to say...
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I'm pretty sure that EMI is on the record saying that they're the same masterings - that the European releases were releases of the 24/96 masterings made for Japan.
Edited to add: The source for this would be Simon Gibson's posts here, under the username "ar80"
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Jonalogic said:
It would seem likely, but that is a rather bold assertion you make here. Can you cite evidence for this, please?
Whether or no this applies, I can advise that the most recent single layer EMIs I have heard from Japan definitely seem to sound better than their earlier hybrid brethren. This surprised me.
However, I am not sure whether the Japanese 2-symphony releases are single layer. I suspect not.
BTW, the 6-symphony Klemperer Mozart set from EMI/Europe is a bit of a sonic stinker. An abject lesson, in fact, in how not to remaster golden age analogue recordings. But we have been through that one many times, of course.
And you either love or loathe the great man's tempi in Mozart, needless to say...
Because EMI Europe has said they are, on this forum. They remastered the releases for EMI Japan.
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samayoeruorandajin said:
Because EMI Europe has said they are, on this forum. They remastered the releases for EMI Japan.
Fair enough, then - and common sense plus economics would decree would decree they wouldn't have done it twice, anyway.
My comments on the later single layer (ie all green) EMI releases sounding better still apply, of course.
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Ubertrout said:
I'm pretty sure that EMI is on the record saying that they're the same masterings - that the European releases were releases of the 24/96 masterings made for Japan.
Edited to add: The source for this would be Simon Gibson's posts here, under the username "ar80"
Thanks! Fair enough.
I didn't know Simon Gibson's nom de plume was ar80. Hmm, was this supposed to be a reference to the Studer A80, I wonder? Tasty reel-to-reel for grownups, if I remember correctly!
Would that he and his colleagues had stuck to what came off straight off the tapes..
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Jonalogic said:
Fair enough, then - and common sense plus economics would decree would decree they wouldn't have done it twice, anyway.
My comments on the later single layer (ie all green) EMI releases sounding better still apply, of course.
I would tend to agree that the EMI single layered offerings sound superb on all counts but since I switched players (from the Marantz SA11S2>Marantz SA11S3 and added the Marigo HD damper to the latter, I have a newfound respect for the EMI hybrid Signature Series (save for the Walter Gieseking Debussy Piano Music which is riddled with numerous distortions).
IMO, the British Signature pressings are superb and represent a GREAT value for the money......MOST 'sets' were cheaper than a single single~layered EMI/Japan pressing and contained a lot of music and lavish packaging for the small sums these sets were commanding.
Since the Universal take~over of EMI, doubtful we'll ever see any more of these British Signature Series SACDs which, IMO, is quite the shame!
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rammiepie said:
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Since the Universal take~over of EMI, doubtful we'll ever see any more of these British Signature Series SACDs which, IMO, is quite the shame!
The classical business is owned by Warner now, no? Not that it matters for seeing new SACDs, of course.
I mostly wish they'd release more of the EMI classics to HDTracks. New Signature Series discs would be even better, but I'm not holding my breath.
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Post by hiredfox June 23, 2013 (10 of 26)
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rammiepie said:
I would tend to agree that the EMI single layered offerings sound superb on all counts but since I switched players (from the Marantz SA11S2>Marantz SA11S3 and added the Marigo HD damper to the latter, I have a newfound respect for the EMI hybrid Signature Series (save for the Walter Gieseking Debussy Piano Music which is riddled with numerous distortions).
IMO, the British Signature pressings are superb and represent a GREAT value for the money......MOST 'sets' were cheaper than a single single~layered EMI/Japan pressing and contained a lot of music and lavish packaging for the small sums these sets were commanding.
Since the Universal take~over of EMI, doubtful we'll ever see any more of these British Signature Series SACDs which, IMO, is quite the shame!
I guess it was the last Cri de Coeur from Simon and his pals.
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